Russia expert Hanna Notte is discussing her new book, "We Shall Outlast Them," in an interview with NPR's Leila Fadel. The conversation centers on Notte's argument that President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine should be understood as more than a war against one neighboring country.
According to the book's central idea, the conflict is also directed at the West. Notte presents Putin's invasion of Ukraine as part of a larger confrontation, one that reflects Moscow's broader struggle with Western governments and institutions.
That framing places the war in a wider geopolitical context. Rather than viewing the invasion only through the lens of Russia and Ukraine, Notte's analysis suggests the Kremlin sees the battlefield as tied to a deeper clash over power, influence and the future of relations with the West.
The NPR interview highlights how "We Shall Outlast Them" adds to the debate over Putin's aims in Ukraine. By focusing on the broader strategic dimension, Notte's book offers readers another way to understand how the war reaches beyond Ukraine's borders.
